Senate Dems Prove It
Published on December 23, 2009 By Daiwa In Politics

The irony of CNN deriding her 'death panel' comment as 'Lie of the Year' during the same week that the Senate healthcare bill itself confirms the truth of her accusation is just too rich.

The IMAB will be real, unelected, unaccountable, unassailable - and forever untouchable if Reid has his way.  Not that you'd ever know from reading the NYT or watching NBC/ABC/CBS.  So confident in the merits of the idea are the Senate Dems that they are trying to immunize it against future repeal.  What evil, pathetic cowards.

They know no shame and lie through their teeth.  Sarah has more character and backbone than all of them combined.


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on Dec 29, 2009

sets up a “private-public advisory committee” headed by the U.S. surgeon general and made up of mostly private sector “medical and other experts” selected by the president and the comptroller general. The advisory committee would have only the power “to recommend” what benefits are included in basic, enhanced and premium insurance plans. It would have no power to decide what treatments anybody will get. Its recommendations on benefits might or might not be adopted.

Leauki, just so you know, here is the death panel.  NOw of course it is not being called that, but the intent is there.  IN HER OPINION, that is a death panel.  Having lived in this country for over 50 years and seen how "advisory" has become mandatory in many areas, I agree with her opinion.  YOu do not have to,  but clearly then it is a matter of opinion and not fact.

on Dec 30, 2009

That would make Glen Beck a genius, with Van Jones and Acorn under his belt.

I don't know anything about Van Jones, but the Acorn story turned out to be simply wrong.

 

on Dec 30, 2009

Again, not by name, but by intent, yes there is.

There is no such intent.

And claiming that there is such an intent, even if the claim is opinion, requires proof.

Palin's proof is, apparently, her opinion. But for some reason proving her accusation wrong requires more than the opinions of experts on both sides of the political spectrum. Don't you think that's weird?

 

Oh, and I would suggest you re-read the LA Crimes link.  Clearly while she is a politician (I never claimed otherwise), she made sure her answers were ambigous enough to allow for them to be the same position.  And my whole going on about AGW was to show that skeptics are not the cro-magnons they are made out to be, and do leave open the possibility that AGW is real - but not with the voodoo that is being foisted upon us.  That is clearly why she was equivocating to what apparently was an attempt to pin her down.

To me it reads as if she flip-flopped on the issue.

When she was governor of Alaska she saw the danger and named it.

But when she had abandoned her position and is now more or less running for whatever it is she thinks she can gain she suddenly forgot all about her previous concerns.

 

They laugh on the outside and cringe on the inside.  You just have to ask yourself why they would spend so much time trying to destroy her (with some success as you demonstrate with your own bias), if she was not a threat.

Who is trying to destroy her?

I remember a smear campaign against her by the left when she was tame and at McCain's side. But ever since Obama won, I haven't seen any attacks against her, except coming from people like myself and Charles of LGF and other Bush and McCain supporters.

I just typed into Google "daily kos sarah palin" and all I found was 2008 material, including references to Daily Kos articles about Palin in 2008.

Then I typed "lgf sarah palin" and found recent material, including an article about how Sarah joined the nirthers (birth certificate people).

I found more with "democratic underground sarah palin": two articles about recent events related to Palin (book signing and custody battle) and a call by a DU member for supporting Palin to punish Obama for not doing what the loonies wanted him to do.

I cannot see this "wanting to destroy her" that you apparently see. It seems to me like the left is pretty much ignoring Sarah Palin. OTOH many of the former right, including LGF, fight it out over her and the only people afraid of her are those who don't want to Democrats to win.

 

Do you see them doing that to David Duke?  He is laughable, yet they pretty much ignore him (the only time he is mentioned is to link someone to him).

"daily kos david duke" brings me to the yearly David Duke Bigot of the Year Award (which they apparently want to award to a group of "radical Jewish extremists").

Ironically it also brings up O'Reilly comparing Daily Kos to David Duke (presumably because of incidents like the openly displayed anti-Semitism in the article I found above).

Anyway, I think we must not forget that David Duke, for all his popularity among white supremacists, is very much on the same page as left-wingers when it comes to foreign policy and Israel (he also believes in evil racist Jews selling "Palestinian" body parts). So why would they scream about him? They like him more than the Bushs and McCains (and certainly the Palins) of the right.

 

Why defeat an enemy that is no threat?  You best of all know that is a losing strategy.  So she is a threat, or they would not be trying to defeat her.

And they aren't.

Just check out what is posted on JU about her. Maybe I have overlooked our local liberals battle against Sarah Palin. But all I see are right-wingers fighting against the ghost of an imagined left-wing front against Sarah Palin and my occasional reply in opposition. I don't see the vast army of left-wingers trying to fend off the Sarah Palin threat. I don't see that outside JU either. All the Sarah discussions appear to be between two camps of former conservatives, there is no liberal front against her that I can see.

The last posting about Palin by a left-winger on JU that I found was from 2008 (Larry Kuperman) when the left were indeed scared by Palin. But that was the same time when I thought she was OK and could help McCain win.

 

on Dec 30, 2009

There is no such intent.

I quoted it, so you can play the innocent card.

When she was governor of Alaska she saw the danger and named it.

But when she had abandoned her position and is now more or less running for whatever it is she thinks she can gain she suddenly forgot all about her previous concerns.

If you want to buy that bilge, there is no hope for you.  But the La Crimes is notorious for its liberal bent (it was the one taht coined the phrase "Nagic Negro"  Again, your opinion is yours to have as you will, whether supported by facts or not, as in this case where it is not, but then dont insinuate it is.

I remember a smear campaign against her by the left when she was tame and at McCain's side. But ever since Obama won,

YOu have not been reading or listening to the american media lately (that is to your credit).

Maybe I have overlooked our local liberals battle against Sarah Palin.

That I would not know since I took a year hiatus from JU.  But I did not take a year hiatus from reality or the american MSM, and the daily diatribe on Palin (check out the talking heads - you will love them) is incessant.  They even have to trash her for not doing her book tour starting in NY!  OMG!  What a crime.

Again, your opinion is yours to have, but it seems more contrived than intelligently derived.  But then opinions can be anything you want them to be,  They do not need facts.

I just had come to expect more from you.  Nothing personal, just professionalism.

I am not here to change your mind.  No amount of truth is going to do that.  Many do not like Palin based on real issues and real agendas, not manufactured ones by those who are afraid of her.

She has a long way to go because she has to overcome that bigotry in the US.  She can (after all Obama was elected).  But one thing you have shown me is that no conservative will ever be favored abroad.  The foreign opinion is based on the liberal media agenda, and is a direct reflection of it.  Ignorant and a lie, but then foreigners have no incentive (and indeed no reason) to learn the real truth about Americans.

It does help though in at least informing the americans that are not brain dead of why foreigners are the way they are.  No mystery, just bigotry.

on Dec 30, 2009

She has a long way to go because she has to overcome that bigotry in the US. She can (after all Obama was elected). But one thing you have shown me is that no conservative will ever be favored abroad. The foreign opinion is based on the liberal media agenda, and is a direct reflection of it. Ignorant and a lie, but then foreigners have no incentive (and indeed no reason) to learn the real truth about Americans.

Here is what Gov. Palin said if that means anything to anyone.

"The term I used to describe the panel making these decisions should not be taken literally," said Palin. The phrase is "a lot like when President Reagan used to refer to the Soviet Union as the 'evil empire.' He got his point across. He got people thinking and researching what he was talking about. It was quite effective. Same thing with the ‘death panels.' I would characterize them like that again, in a heartbeat."

In my opinion no American is liked or welcomed anywhere I have lived except, the Philippines. Yet whenever a nation is in trouble the first nation called is America.

on Dec 30, 2009

In my opinion no American is liked or welcomed anywhere I have lived except, the Philippines. Yet whenever a nation is in trouble the first nation called is America.

I dont agree with that anecdotally.  As a person, I have not really seen any animosity one on one (except france).  But when you get a group of non-americans to start talking about a group of americans, of course stereotypes come into play and that is where you get the cliches, and ignorance (it is a natural human thing).

When they look at Joe American, for the most part they see a decent (most of the time) guy.  WHen they are asked to think about what the US is like, they become parrots to the MSM which is liberal and definitely anti-american, and so they see it the same way.

That they at least try to read about the US does speak well of them for the most part.  And so I do not really fault them too much for not doing some research to find out the truth.  After all, most Americans probably could not even find their country on a map.

But what does irk me is for the liberals here to pretend that the biased view of foreigners is an affirmation of their opinions, when in actual fact itis just a reflection of their opinions.  And of course it irks me when foreigners who have not done more than cursory research into the US try to tell americans, with some sort of self important authority, what is wrong with their country.

on Dec 30, 2009

But what does irk me is for the liberals here to pretend that the biased view of foreigners is an affirmation of their opinions, when in actual fact itis just a reflection of their opinions. And of course it irks me when foreigners who have not done more than cursory research into the US try to tell americans, with some sort of self important authority, what is wrong with their country.

I got that alot in Syria, and Jordan.

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