Consider carefully before you take the leap
Published on December 28, 2021 By Daiwa In Personal Computing

This was the subject of a reply of mine to Tatiora's October post on Windows 11 Updates that I think merits a separate thread.

I've been advised by my tech support company to not install Windows 11 under any circumstances.  A major reason for that is that I (and my office network) deal with protected health information and Windows 11 is not only not HIPAA compliant but opens your computer to all kinds of background third party access.  MS has decided to go the way of Facebook and make you the product which they will sell as the primary method of sustaining their business.  The 'upgrade' may be free but orders of magnitude more intrusive, mostly silently of course (the fine print applies when you click Agree).

Windows 11, per my tech, also is a major step toward forcing all your application purchases and subscriptions into the Microsoft Store, a la Apple.  They are steadily making it harder & harder to install anything from outside their controlled ecosystem.  They actually trialed this approach with a version of Windows 10 called Windows 10S.  I learned of this when we purchased a Surface which turned out to have that OS for a dedicated purpose servicing a biometric device early this year.  Initially I thought the "S" meant a version specific to the Surface but it turns out the "S" means Store, as in Microsoft Store.  Our tech had to force an install of a regular version of Windows 10 before the software for the biometric device could be installed (it obviously wasn't available on the Microsoft Store).  There were also incompatible drivers for things like our network printers & Bluetooth devices.  The latter issues are probably cleaned up a bit in Windows 11, but beware.

A good example of where this will likely lead is the recent behavior of Adobe regarding Adobe Acrobat Reader DC which is the subject of another post here.  They already have the ability to reach into your computer uninvited and steal paid-for software from you.

Enjoy the brave new world of computing and Happy New Year!


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on Jan 19, 2022

kona0197

Just gonna have to buckle down and learn to love it.

That is why I am here. I learned to love Windows 11 only with Start 11.

Strange thing is; the Stardock developers actually read the forum here and incorporate things that the users want. Microsoft tries their best to ignore the users because they think they know best.

So yeah there are some annoyances but there are also some good solutions as well.

on Jan 19, 2022

PhoenixRising1

That is why I am here. I learned to love Windows 11 only with Start 11.


I've tried several times to use 11 on my current PC. It's about 10 months old, runs 11 just fine. As with all new things, it makes me dizzy when I see a new layout. There is something strange at work when I use 11 on here, the fonts aren't as crisp and readable as 10, and the whole display seems not as sharp with everything. 

on Jan 19, 2022

kona0197

Besides, Apple Mac OS has more then enough eye candy
If you are willing to apply a little effort, you can customize MacOS  somewhat.  I used cursors, icons, and dock improvement software when I had a Mac.  Don5318 knows, he's seen what I can do to dress up a mac.

on Jan 20, 2022

PhoenixRising1


Quoting naroon1,

I think those official requirements will change as it was one of the worst "set of things" needed for an OS ever



I agree. The TPM Chip should be the ONLY requirement for Windows 11. There is no question, Windows 11 requirements will go down as a fumble when we talk about the OS years from now.


Quoting naroon1,

patch may fall into the realms of things we do not talk about even though it was widely posted on Reddit and Github



The good thing about Github is that it fixes everything. There are so many talented coders there. Ironically it is now owned by Microsoft.

You are not wrong there PhoenixRising1, Github does have some fantastic stuff and can always help you in times of need, full of likeminded peeps. I love Reddit too as some of those communities are very serious about there subject matter.

Never really been an Apple fan myself besides the IPad, and that is just a convenient way to shop E Bay or Amazon for those "Big Boys Toys" all us IT peeps love playing with, my latest set of upgrades are now finished and my Desktop now looks great inside and out. It is so much more accessible now having the various SSDs all included in a Multi Booting System, should have done it ages ago, now i can flip back and forwards through various OS.

Now we have neone6 & Vampothika doing there own site, i have just picked up a new MasterSkin to try out "Hexagon"

I sent a message asking for a screenshot using the system colour Changer Slider moved to Vivid Green to see how this Skin would look in my preferred colour scheme, neone6 , happily did this for me so first sale of many, always loved there take on skin colours and already have lots of them.

on Jan 27, 2022

A good read I will respond to them

1. Unlike Windows 11, Windows 10 Runs on Everything

True, I have no counter for this one.

2. Windows 11 Is Buggy and Lacks Polish

This was very true at release, but 3 months later I would say most of the bugs are ironed out unless a preview version is running. It could be argued that Windows 11 was not in Beta long enough for sure.

3. Windows 10's Taskbar Is Miles Ahead of Windows 11’s Offering

Yes, the taskbar is one of the worst features of Windows 11. BUT, with explorerpatcher and soon to be with start 11 the taskbar issue's can easily be corrected.

4. Android Apps Are Nowhere to Be Seen on Windows 11

This was very true at release. But now the android apps are becoming pretty easy to put on windows 11. It was a late arrival but kind of no longer true.

5. Windows 11 Is Just Like Windows 10

The reasoning that is used for their argument is true, But I am going to have to disagree with this one. Some of the changes are pretty substantial regardless of the development process. Is you look at Apple OS updates or Andriod OS updates you will have to agree that the Windows 11 changes a lot more big in comparison with the previous OS.

6. Windows 11’s Biggest Gaming Features Are Also on Windows 10

Half true, Windows 10 is getting a lot of the same gaming upgrades that Windows 11 is. However xbox integration on Windows 11 is much better.

7. Microsoft Will Support Windows 10 Until 2025

But the updates will become only security updates and more small as time goes on. Windows 11 will see much bigger updates and support.

on Jan 27, 2022

PhoenixRising1

3. Windows 10's Taskbar Is Miles Ahead of Windows 11’s Offering
Yes, the taskbar is one of the worst features of Windows 11. BUT, with explorerpatcher and soon to be with start 11 the taskbar issue's can easily be corrected.

And there's the rub.

Who at Redmond said "don't worry if the GUI is shit....there are 3rd party solutions"...?

That applies to ALL MS OS after 7.

Probably why I am still on 7...

on Jan 27, 2022


Who at Redmond said "don't worry if the GUI is shit....there are 3rd party solutions"...?

True. The taskbar is a bit of a similar problem we saw with windows 8. They keep trying to make an OS that has the same GUI whether it is keyboard and mouse or a Tablet. Unfortunately, it just doesn't feel right.

However, for me... I kind of like the variety third party software brings and prefer that anyways. Take the start menu for example, I much rather having a choice in what style I want to use.. Some people prefer windows 7, some people prefer windows 10, and some people prefer windows 11.. So no OS can really offer a start button for everyone. The flop of Windows 8 really did bring in a golden age of third party modifications. In my view that is a good thing.

on Feb 16, 2022

sonnybaker016

sonnybaker016

Give Windows 11 a go sonnybaker016, spend some hands on time with the OS and report back your findings, i have used the OS since before it's release last year and find it to be fine and stable, i have heard others say it is buggy but from my personal experience and now hundreds of man hours using this OS for both work and play i can not agree. You can always roll back to Win 10 if you do not like it.

Remember to take all the Privacy precautions to stop MS using your Data, and you will be good to go.

on Feb 16, 2022

 

I agree with you, I like Win11 as is, just plain Jane (my personal opinion), run it on my laptop, and it runs fine, love it!   

on Feb 16, 2022

naroon1


Quoting sonnybaker016,

sonnybaker016



Give Windows 11 a go sonnybaker016, spend some hands on time with the OS and report back your findings, i have used the OS since before it's release last year and find it to be fine and stable, i have heard others say it is buggy but from my personal experience and now hundreds of man hours using this OS for both work and play i can not agree. You can always roll back to Win 10 if you do not like it.

Remember to take all the Privacy precautions to stop MS using your Data, and you will be good to go.

Sonnybaker016 was spam ...

on Feb 16, 2022


Sonnybaker016 was spam ...

Will miss Sonnybaker and the great conversation he sparked up. He was definitely the MVP of spam  

on Feb 18, 2022

don5318

 

I agree with you, I like Win11 as is, just plain Jane (my personal opinion), run it on my laptop, and it runs fine, love it!   

A lot of our members agree with you don5318. Do you move the Start and Taskbar Icons using Start11 don5318, or just leave as is.

on Feb 18, 2022

naroon1


Quoting don5318,

 

I agree with you, I like Win11 as is, just plain Jane (my personal opinion), run it on my laptop, and it runs fine, love it!   



A lot of our members agree with you don5318. Do you move the Start and Taskbar Icons using Start11 don5318, or just leave as is.

I leave (Win11 Start and Taskbar) as is, I don't use Start11, the only Stardock product on my laptop is Fences.     

I'm going to wait for WB11, to use Start11, and I'm fine with that, like I said, I like Win11 right out of the box.   

I do like the add on, and upgrades with this latest update on Win11, and that's funny, cause I'm running it on an unsupported hardware machine, I suppose there will be a time, when my laptop won't receive any major updates.   

on Feb 18, 2022

don5318

I do like the add on, and upgrades with this latest update on Win11, and that's funny, cause I'm running it on an unsupported hardware machine, I suppose there will be a time, when my laptop won't receive any major updates. 

Is there a way to get it on unsupported h'ware? ...I still have no interest running it on the only machine I have that is...but plenty of guinea pigs I can sacrifice to the Gods of Idiocy...

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