Consider carefully before you take the leap
Published on December 28, 2021 By Daiwa In Personal Computing

This was the subject of a reply of mine to Tatiora's October post on Windows 11 Updates that I think merits a separate thread.

I've been advised by my tech support company to not install Windows 11 under any circumstances.  A major reason for that is that I (and my office network) deal with protected health information and Windows 11 is not only not HIPAA compliant but opens your computer to all kinds of background third party access.  MS has decided to go the way of Facebook and make you the product which they will sell as the primary method of sustaining their business.  The 'upgrade' may be free but orders of magnitude more intrusive, mostly silently of course (the fine print applies when you click Agree).

Windows 11, per my tech, also is a major step toward forcing all your application purchases and subscriptions into the Microsoft Store, a la Apple.  They are steadily making it harder & harder to install anything from outside their controlled ecosystem.  They actually trialed this approach with a version of Windows 10 called Windows 10S.  I learned of this when we purchased a Surface which turned out to have that OS for a dedicated purpose servicing a biometric device early this year.  Initially I thought the "S" meant a version specific to the Surface but it turns out the "S" means Store, as in Microsoft Store.  Our tech had to force an install of a regular version of Windows 10 before the software for the biometric device could be installed (it obviously wasn't available on the Microsoft Store).  There were also incompatible drivers for things like our network printers & Bluetooth devices.  The latter issues are probably cleaned up a bit in Windows 11, but beware.

A good example of where this will likely lead is the recent behavior of Adobe regarding Adobe Acrobat Reader DC which is the subject of another post here.  They already have the ability to reach into your computer uninvited and steal paid-for software from you.

Enjoy the brave new world of computing and Happy New Year!


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on Feb 19, 2022

neone6

Question:

-Seen this app mentioned quite a Few times now... "startallback" -Does it show the skinned startmenue like Start 10/11 ?? If not...

Are people stupid?   

-Why use Windowblinds without one of the Main design-areas showing?

People actually use the programs startisback and explorerpatcher only because they want never combined tabs on Windows 11. That was both programs main draw early on. As a bonus, explorerpatcher also got Windowblinds 10 working on Windows 11.

As far as skinning goes, start 10 / 11 are the tools for WindowBlinds. A different skinning program uxthemepatcher uses startisback exclusively as their tool for Windows 11. A very different approach then stardock and if you read the conversation between myself and Jafo in the windowblinds 11 planning thread it makes sense not to rely on another third party software for your own third party software.

Honestly, I do not like startisback that much as it is showing its age. Once start 11 version 1.2 comes out I think everyone will forget its existence

on Feb 19, 2022

naroon1

Never knew MS owned GitHub, with so much useful toys, and there are loads of Warez stuff on GitHub too like the L3 Widevine Decrypter for Ripping content from Netflix , Amazon etc.. MS either turn a blind eye or do not care, loads more stuff there too which would be considered Warez, or allows through some of there files do warez things.

I think they have to walk a tight rope. They purchased a company that wasn't always pro Microsoft to begin with. If they take down too much content too fast people will bolt from using Github and go to the competition.

on Feb 19, 2022

neone6

Question:

-Seen this app mentioned quite a Few times now... "startallback" -Does it show the skinned startmenue like Start 10/11 ?? If not...

Are people stupid?   

-Why use Windowblinds without one of the Main design-areas showing?

curently i use windows 11 and only startallback, as an alternative to windowblinds or curtains because as these currently not usable / updated

 Why use Windowblinds without one of the Main design-areas showing?
Are people stupid?"  not me

on Feb 19, 2022

I need to read ahead before posting....     

on Feb 19, 2022

xewafa3865


Quoting neone6,

Question:

-Seen this app mentioned quite a Few times now... "startallback" -Does it show the skinned startmenue like Start 10/11 ?? If not...

Are people stupid?   

-Why use Windowblinds without one of the Main design-areas showing?



curently i use windows 11 and only startallback, as an alternative to windowblinds or curtains because as these currently not usable / updated


 Why use Windowblinds without one of the Main design-areas showing?
Are people stupid?"  not me

I do not think true windows 11 skinning is available anywhere yet. I do not see windows 11 start menu being skinned, I do not see the command bar being skinned. Right now to skin in Windows 11 things are being turned back to Windows 10 too much. I do not think that is what a lot of Windows 11 users want. They want to see more of Windows 11 while skinning Windows 11. Most people are enjoying the changes made from Windows 10 to Windows 11. That is why there is excitement for Windowblinds 11

on Feb 19, 2022

naroon1

Never knew MS owned GitHub, with so much useful toys, and there are loads of Warez stuff on GitHub too like the L3 Widevine Decrypter for Ripping content from Netflix , Amazon etc..   MS either turn a blind eye or do not care, loads more stuff there too which would be considered Warez, or allows through some of there files do warez things.

MS acquired Github in 2018 for $7.5 billion in stock. As I said, I think the W11 there is more a marketing thing than anything else...to ensure the next computer has W11 on it.

Btw, to install W11 Pro, you'll need a MS account. Nice, no? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/02/new-preview-build-adds-microsoft-account-requirement-to-windows-11-pro/

"While most devices do require a sign-in to fully enable app stores, cloud storage, and cross-device sharing and syncing, Windows 11 will soon stand alone as the only major consumer OS that requires account sign-in to enable even basic functionality." - Ars Technica

 

on Feb 19, 2022

RedneckDude

I need to read ahead before posting....     

you should read everything before you post pointlessly, my post referred to a discussion of a contribution by me further up it was about my statement so I can probably post something about it as we have already established it. seems to be here with the tolerance is not far and some seem to think they would have eaten the wisdom with spoons.  

on Feb 19, 2022

DrJBHL

install W11 Pro, you'll need a MS account

How dumb,

1. A good thing I have Home edition.

2. The wording seems ambiguous, does this mean you have to have an account to set up. But afterwards can still turn off and un-hook the live account once setup is complete or does it always have to be signed in? 

Either way it is a trend in the wrong direction

on Feb 19, 2022

RedneckDude

I need to read ahead before posting....     

Random question. How did you end up with 5 dots below your screen name. I have been trying to figure out this whole dot system and can't quite figure it out

on Feb 19, 2022

PhoenixRising1


Quoting RedneckDude,

I need to read ahead before posting....     



Random question. How did you end up with 5 dots below your screen name. I have been trying to figure out this whole dot system and can't quite figure it out

The 'dots' indicate access levels from 'Citizen' to 'Master'.  They correspond to promotions attained though time/experience/contribution to the world of Skinning in general and Wincustomize in particular.

Levels are ...

1:- Citizen

2:- Apprentice

3:- Master Apprentice

4:- Journeyman

5:- Master.

Levels 4 and 5 have direct access to upload works to the galleries without need for Moderation, and Level 5 have the opportunity to submit commercial works [be paid].

On that note it's probably timely to review promotions again...

on Feb 19, 2022

Thanks Jafo, valuable information and it will help to know who I'm talking to some 😎

on Feb 19, 2022

About Windows 11

Charlie Brown fails to kick the football (Over a Million Times)

on Feb 19, 2022

PhoenixRising1

Thanks Jafo, valuable information and will help to know who talking to some 😎

"....."

they are a conspiratorial community all those who are there for a long time cheer each other up and rate their skins with very good ratings  people who do not belong are badly rated, mobbed and banned that is for many here their life content for 20 years and that is why there is no  possibility to participate or get tolerance as  a new member

on Feb 20, 2022

xewafa3865


Quoting PhoenixRising1,

Thanks Jafo, valuable information and will help to know who talking to some 😎



"....."

they are a conspiratorial community all those who are there for a long time cheer each other up and rate their skins with very good ratings  people who do not belong are badly rated, mobbed and banned that is for many here their life content for 20 years and that is why there is no  possibility to participate or get tolerance as  a new member

This is so not true.   For starters, I never rate down. I know others who also don't.  I was taught if you can't say something good, say nothing.

Secondly, there are plenty of newer members being welcomed here. Some have even been promoted.  

 

Banned?  It takes a pretty serious offense to get banned here.  Like spamming, or trolling.  We do have rules.  It's called a TOS.

 

on Feb 20, 2022

xewafa3865


Quoting RedneckDude,

I need to read ahead before posting....     



you should read everything before you post pointlessly, my post referred to a discussion of a contribution by me further up it was about my statement so I can probably post something about it as we have already established it. seems to be here with the tolerance is not far and some seem to think they would have eaten the wisdom with spoons.  

Did you read my edit?  If not, you should.  I was simply trying to help Jafo, but found someone already said what I said.

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