The Left's New Bitch
Published on January 31, 2005 By Daiwa In Politics
Well, it didn't take long.

Just to be sure the joy didn't get out of hand, and since they've lost another wrongly-predicted disaster to complain about, some from the left have already moved on to their next battleground - what they all call the Absence of an Exit Strategy.

Never mind that there is a public timetable, adhered to to the day so far, for all the steps in the transition to a fully independent Iraqi State: Election of a Constitutional Congress, a deadline for development of a written Constitution, a fixed date for submitting that Constitution to a vote of the Iraqi people, a fixed date for election of a permanent representative Assembly. But Bush has no Exit Strategy.

The training and "standing up" of Iraqi security forces, a very difficult proposition, logistically and psychologically, is moving forward and finally gaining serious momentum. It's been slower than hoped, but we are talking about human beings here, not Iraqi robots, most of whom have been subjected to a kind of oppressive rule none of us can imagine and who might have a difficult time reasserting themselves in their own society. No one could know, going in, all that would be needed to reconstitute the Iraqi security apparatus, in terms of time & resources, but the commitment to get the job done has always been there. But Bush has no Exit Strategy.

Finally, some people seem to forget the only strategy that matters - Victory. Bush has said all along what our plan would be - to leave when the Iraqis no longer need our military support and to work to make that happen in the shortest time possible. But he has no Exit Strategy.

Of course, when pressed, the folks from the left I've heard pontificating today say, "OK, we'll concede that all that constitutes an Exit Strategy, but it's not happening quickly enough." Or, "It needs a more intensified international diplomatic effort." As if Zarqawi, et al, give a rip about diplomacy.

Cheers,
Daiwa


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on Jan 31, 2005
The left has just backed themselves into an untenable corner.  They cannot say anything good for that is all they have left, doom and gloom and negatism.  So when they are proved wrong on one front,t hey switch the argument.
on Jan 31, 2005
There are only two exit strategies

1. Win

2. Loose

nothing else matters
on Feb 01, 2005
Absence of an Exit Strategy

This is so far behind it is ridiculous. Daiwa, I know you are much more informed then this. The talk about the lack of an exit strategy was a major concern before the war even started and was a reason given not to engage ourselves in the war. Come on, buddy.
on Feb 01, 2005
This is so far behind it is ridiculous. Daiwa, I know you are much more informed then this. The talk about the lack of an exit strategy was a major concern before the war even started and was a reason given not to engage ourselves in the war. Come on, buddy


I think there has always been an exit strategy, and it was very clearly stated. When the Job is done. What part of that little 5 word sentence do you not understand? Is it the word is? After all, Bill Clinton has not defined it yet.
on Feb 01, 2005
We have an exit strategy and that id to leave once when the country is secured. It is impossible to say when we can leave I raq because you cannot forsee how Zurqaqi et al's recruitment among other factors go. But our resolve shall remain steadfast.
on Feb 01, 2005
Actually it's a pretty ingenius ploy. The powers that be in the democrat party know that Prs. Bush is not going to set a timeline, they also know that he has told us what conditions must exist for him to "exit" Iraq. So, they ask the question that Prs. Bush will not answer, then accuse him of not knowing something that can't be known (short of being in cahoots with the insurgents). As for the conditions, no matter how many times he answers, all they have to do is say, "ok, you've said that, but what is the exit strategy" as if he never told us the conditions at all.

Either way they sit back and arrogantly act like they have made their point. Unless their point is that "Anybody Baa-ut Bush"
sheep will grasp at any straw to discredit him, they have made nothing.
on Feb 01, 2005

And remember Clinton set an exit strategy in Bosnia.  He gave a distinct time that we would pull out.  Anyone remember that and the time he set?

Did he adhere to it?  No.  Did he offer another one?  no.  Do the sheep rail against him for that?  baaaaaa-ttt no.

on Feb 01, 2005
He gave a distinct time that we would pull out.


Yeah, it's been an awfully long year, hasn't it!! ;~D
on Feb 02, 2005
Didn't he swear that he never actually put it in? Oh, sorry - wrong crisis.

Hey, def - good to see you back. Missed you. However, the bitching about the Absence of an Exit Strategy is a false or strawman argument. I have yet to hear from Kerry, Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy or any other Democrat what they mean by the phrase "Exit Strategy," except to announce arbitrary dates and numbers for outbound troop rotations and to speed up training. The former is stupid and the latter is being done as quickly as the "trainees" can handle it.

What is it that they want to know that is not currently known to them? The "Absence of an Exist Strategy" charge is a completely nebulous allegation and a bogus club they are swinging for public consumption, just to have a catch phrase that sounds like serious criticism when it's nothing of the sort. I wouldn't mind if Bush said "It ain't over till it's over" in his SOTU speech tonight. Enough already.

Cheers,
Daiwa

on Feb 03, 2005

I wouldn't mind if Bush said "It ain't over till it's over" in his SOTU speech tonight. Enough already.

I dont think Yogi Berra would mind Bush Quoting him.  However based upon a recent Lawsuit, I think he would have a problem with Clinton doing it!

on Feb 03, 2005
I dont think Yogi Berra would mind Bush Quoting him. However based upon a recent Lawsuit, I think he would have a problem with Clinton doing it!


funny and timely!!! ;~D
on Feb 05, 2005
"Absence of an Exist Strategy"


HAH! Talk about a Freudian slip! Me bad.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Feb 05, 2005
Hey, def - good to see you back.

Thanks for the warm welcome, it's good to see that you are still posting here.

bitching about the Absence of an Exit Strategy is a false or strawman argument

Some may think ABB, Dems, or other groups are simply using this legitimate problem as an excuse to bash Bush. Though they might be the actual problem is no red herring and should not be dismissed.

An exit strategy should have been defined long ago. "Exit Strategy" being a plan describing the completion of goals in a theatre of operations and the termination of conflict. This will include the detail of troops and equipment and the order in which they move and how they do so as they exit the theatre. An exit strategy is a basic part of any campaign. Let's be considerate of our troops as well, who trudge on without end in sight -it must be somewhat demoralizing for our soldiers. Why don't we do them and their loved ones a favor by giving a date?

The hesitancy of the administration to utilize and define their exit strategy is a blatant attempt at writing themselves a blank check, with no strings attached. Without concrete goals, the administration can never be held accountable if it fails to meet those unsaid specifics. We won't know if we won or lost, we'll just argue about the success of the execution of the conflict. Just the way our "leaders" like it.

Aimless and careless, Bush and his cabinet shrug their shoulders while our best march tirelessly on.

..oh, yeah:

When the Job is done.

"Get 'r done" is not an exit strategy - it's bad rhetoric designed to be easily swallowed and parroted by supporters.



on Feb 05, 2005

Reply #13 By: Deference - 2/5/2005 5:30:33 PM
Hey, def - good to see you back.

Thanks for the warm welcome, it's good to see that you are still posting here.

bitching about the Absence of an Exit Strategy is a false or strawman argument

Some may think ABB, Dems, or other groups are simply using this legitimate problem as an excuse to bash Bush. Though they might be the actual problem is no red herring and should not be dismissed.

An exit strategy should have been defined long ago. "Exit Strategy" being a plan describing the completion of goals in a theatre of operations and the termination of conflict. This will include the detail of troops and equipment and the order in which they move and how they do so as they exit the theatre. An exit strategy is a basic part of any campaign. Let's be considerate of our troops as well, who trudge on without end in sight -it must be somewhat demoralizing for our soldiers. Why don't we do them and their loved ones a favor by giving a date?


It's been said before and maybe you weren't listening. Giving those clowns in Iraq a date we're going to leave is a BAD thing. Then they know all they have to do is sit back and wait till after the set date. Then they can start their BS all over. As far as an exit strategy goes..... Are you *absolutely* sure we don't have one? Just because they aren't saying don't mean there isn't any.
on Feb 05, 2005
You're right, drmiler, I don't know for certain that there is no exit strategy, but for the administration to at least say that they did would quell some criticism. The fact that they won't even get that close kind'a tells you something.

Just to be clear, I'm not advocating the administration announce a date, but it would be nice to know that some decent plan exists j(and that they inform us of it to some degree) and that it is not one the succeding president will have to deal with.
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